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		<title>Penn State Child Sex Abuse Opinion Wrap-Up</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean Arrindell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All forms of media are blowing up with reaction to the firing of Penn State football coach Joe Paterno, the rape and sex abuse charges against former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, and the blind eye so many at Penn State turned to it. There&#8217;s a lot going on here: idolatry; the culture of college sports; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All forms of media are blowing up with reaction to the firing of Penn State football coach Joe Paterno, the rape and sex abuse charges against former assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, and the blind eye so many at Penn State turned to it. There&#8217;s a lot going on here: idolatry; the culture of college sports; people within institutions not holding themselves and their institutions accountable.</p>
<p>This story is multi-faceted with so many different angles, causes and repercussions, I wanted to put some them together to try to find some context.</p>
<p>First, let&#8217;s call these alleged crimes at Penn State what they are <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dear-media-penn-state-is-not-a-sex-scandal-its-a-rape-scandal/" target="_blank">writes Tommy Christopher at Mediaite</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The nomenclature surrounding “sex crimes” is already hopelessly sterile, and the media routinely refers to cases of rape and sexual assault as “sex scandals,” but that makes it no less important to call them out every time they do it.</p>
<p>Sandusky is not accused of “having sex” with little boys, he is accused of raping them. In our civilization, “sex” with a child is not possible, since a child cannot consent to sex. As I half-listened to the news all day today, then, and I heard repeated references to “the Penn State sex scandal,” it pissed me off. It made my blood steam a little bit, like a hot cup of coffee.</p></blockquote>
<p>(I would apply this criticism to the Dominique Strauss-Kahn alleged sexual assault which was often <a href="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=dominique+strauss-kahn+sex+scandal&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8#q=dominique+strauss-kahn+%22sex+scandal%22&amp;hl=en&amp;client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;tbm=nws&amp;prmd=imvnso&amp;source=lnt&amp;tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:2011,cd_max:2011&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=pxC8TrStO4Tl0QGxpZyYBg&amp;ved=0CA4QpwUoBQ&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&amp;fp=b45258d81b306a19&amp;biw=1176&amp;bih=702&quot;  " target="_blank">referred</a> to as a &#8220;sex scandal.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Many have made the connection between the cover-up at Penn State and the Catholic Church&#8217;s cover-up of child molestation. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/opinion/dowd-personal-foul-at-penn.html?ref=opinion" target="_blank">Maureen Dowd made it</a> in her Tuesday column in the <span class="Apple-style-span">New York Times</span>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Like the Roman Catholic Church, Penn State is an arrogant institution hiding behind its mystique. And sports, as my former fellow sports columnist at The Washington Star, David Israel, says, is “an insular world that protects its own, and operates outside of societal norms as long as victories and cash continue to flow bountifully.” Penn State rakes in $70 million a year from its football program.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/ns/msnbc_tv-msnbc_tv/#45233948http://" target="_blank">Lawrence O&#8217;Donnell also discussed</a> the failure of institutions and the people within them with with filmmaker Michael Moore on The Last Word.</p>
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<p>There was a lot of reaction on Twitter last night as protesters and rioters took to the streets at Penn State in support of Paterno.<br />
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<a href="https://twitter.com/#!/shayera/status/134502575998382080" target="_blank">@shayera tweeted</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Why don&#8217;t more abuse victims come forward? Just look at the scene at Penn State and I think you have an answer.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/#!/UltraVerified/status/134495874326872064" target="_blank">@ultraverified wrote</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I remember when college students protested against violations of civil rights, not to defend child molesters and their enablers.</p></blockquote>
<p>LeVar Burton (yes, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeVar_Burton" target="_blank"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span">that</span></span></span></a> LeVar Burton) <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/levarburton/status/134497838297133056" target="_blank">tweeted</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Now might be an appropriate time for us to re-evaluate the importance we place on both collegiate and pro sports in this culture!</p></blockquote>
<p>On this topic of college sports, <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/10/joe-paterno-and-penn-state-s-code-of-omerta-in-the-sex-abuse-scandal.html" target="_blank">Buzz Bissinger concluded in The Daily Beast</a> that not only should the entire Penn State coaching staff go..</p>
<blockquote><p>And so, frankly, should major college football and basketball as it exists now, rotten beyond repair, as has been pointed out a thousand times. Totally disconnected from the academic experience, they are insulated kingdoms with their own rules and reigns of terror because of the money they make, trading in illegal recruiting and illegal gifts and illegal favors, and now, thanks to Penn State, alleged sexual abuse of children by a former coach who must have assumed he would always be protected. Just like a Mafia soldier.</p>
<p>Except that the even the Mafia has higher moral standards.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/10/1035066/-Joe-Paterno,-Herman-Cain,-Men,-Sex,-and-Power" target="_blank">In the DailyKos, Kevin Powell</a> links the Penn State story to another big story of the week &#8211; the Herman Cain sexual harassment (sexual assault?) allegations. He laments, &#8220;what a disaster manhood is when it is unapologetically invested in power, privilege, patriarchy, sexism, and a reckless disregard for the safety and sanity of others, especially women and children.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Every single year, it seems, some well-known man somewhere gets into trouble because of sex, money, drugs, or violence, or some combination thereof (and God only knows how many unknown males do likewise). It is always the same themes, just with a new cast of characters. Yesterday it was priests of the Catholic Church. Today it is the male leadership of Penn State. Yesterday it was Anthony Weiner and Charlie Sheen. Today it is Herman Cain.</p></blockquote>
<p>He concludes:</p>
<blockquote><p>If any good can come of the Cain and Penn State disasters it is my sincere hope that spaces and movements are created, finally, where we men can really begin to rethink what manhood can be, what manhood might be. Manhood that is not about power, privilege, and the almighty penis, but instead rooted in a sense of humanity, in peace, in love, in nonviolence, in honesty and transparency, in constant self-criticism and self-reflection, and in respect and honor of women and girls, again, as our equals; in spaces and movements where men and boys who might not be hyper-macho and sports fanatics like some us are not treated as outcasts, as freaks, as less than men or boys. A manhood where if we see something bad happening, we say something, and not simply stick our heads in the sand and pretend that something did not happen. Or worse, yet, do something wrong ourselves, and when confronted with that wrongness, rather than confess, acknowledge, grow, heal, evolve, we instead dig in our heels and imagine ourselves in an all-out war, proclaiming our innocence to any who will listen, even as truth grows, like tall and daunting trees in a distant and darkened woods, about us.</p></blockquote>
<p>Layers and perspectives will surely develop as the more details emerge from the story. What I think these views show is not just a breakdown in the system at Penn State, but a breakdown of institutions having any consideration for individuals as human beings. When the culture at a university or a church (a <span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span"><span class="Apple-style-span">church</span></span></span>!) prioritizes the perpetuation of itself instead of children, then something is deeply wrong with the people who run the institution.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s something to the O&#8217;Donnell/Moore interview about how this breakdown happens over and over again. Institutions, corporations, and business are made up of many people. The cultures at those entities are made by the people within them. So, why is it that so many men (it&#8217;s often men) can turn a blind eye to repeated and flagrant misdeeds? Part of it is greed, but where did breakdown with these men occur that allowed greed and the need to be right to make them turn away from helping their fellow human being?</p>
<p>Powell suggested &#8220;creating spaces and movements&#8221; to address this. We must crawl before we can walk, but spaces won&#8217;t suffice. If this culture of masculinity is embedded in so many men from childhood, change on this front will require movements. To create a culture where it doesn&#8217;t contribute to tragedies like these, masculinity will have to redefined and recreated from the ground up.</p>
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		<title>Drinking Only Beer For Lent</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 04:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean Arrindell</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It sounds like a disrespectful college dare gone wrong, but it&#8217;s not. CNN interviewed a newspaper editor and beer blogger who is only drinking beer (and water) for Lent. The beer fast has historical roots relating to 17th Century German monks. Check out the interview: Read more at CNN Follow me on Twitter and connect [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like a disrespectful college dare gone wrong, but it&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>CNN interviewed a newspaper editor and beer blogger who is only drinking beer (and water) for Lent. The beer fast has historical roots relating to 17th Century German monks.</p>
<p>Check out the interview:</p>
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<p>Read more at <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/08/for-lent-can-man-live-by-brew-alone-2/" target="_blank">CNN</a></p>
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		<title>God&#8217;s Political Plan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rich Perkin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guest post for Jazz Guns Apple Pie There&#8217;s a saying that people use to explain things they can&#8217;t. &#8216;God moves in mysterious ways.&#8217; Now, my religious practicing went the same way as my piano practice when I was twelve, but I&#8217;ve always understood this phrase to mean that we can&#8217;t always explain why God causes [...]]]></description>
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<div style="float: left; margin-right: 5px;"><a href="http://view.picapp.com/pictures.photo/news/palin-joins-rally-for/image/10091572?term=sarah+palin" target="_blank"><img title="Palin Joins Rally For WV Republican Candidate For Senate John Raese" onmousedown="return false;" src="http://view3.picapp.com/pictures.photo/image/10091572/palin-joins-rally-for/palin-joins-rally-for.jpg?size=234&amp;imageId=10091572" border="0" alt="CHARLESTON, WV - OCTOBER 30: Former vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin greats supporters during a rally for Republican John Raese's U.S. Senate campaign October 30, 2010 in Charleston, West Virginia. Raese and West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin, a Democrat, are embroiled in a hotly-contested race for the seat vacated following the death of Robert C. Byrd. (Photo by Randy Snyder/Getty Images)" width="234" height="160" /></a></div>
<p><script src="http://view.picapp.com//JavaScripts/OTIjs.js" type="text/javascript"></script>There&#8217;s a saying that people use to explain things they can&#8217;t. &#8216;God moves in mysterious ways.&#8217; Now, my religious practicing went the same way as my piano practice when I was twelve, but I&#8217;ve always understood this phrase to mean that we can&#8217;t always explain why God causes things to happen. Because it&#8217;s God. That&#8217;s part of the whole divinity thing.</p>
<p>So when you have political candidates such as <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/11/politics/main6082616.shtml" target="_blank">Sarah Palin</a>, <a href="http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/07/sharron-angle-god-told-me-to-run.html" target="_blank">Sharron Angle</a>, and <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/10/christine-odonnell-claims-divine-mandate-for-candidacy.html" target="_blank">Christine O&#8217;Donnell</a>, all claiming that God called them to run or it was a part of His &#8220;plan,&#8221; what does it mean when they keep losing? There&#8217;s a couple of ways this can go.</p>
<p>To begin with, maybe it&#8217;s a personal thing where He wants them to grow, to learn from their experiences on the campaign trail. Maybe He wants them to learn a little humility in defeat. After all, the meek are going to inherit the Earth.</p>
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<p>Or how about this. . .He&#8217;s preparing them for the next time they run for office, teaching them the lessons they need to win their next election. With the lessons they can take with them, they&#8217;ll be in a better position to assume the mantle of leadership they have been told to pursue.</p>
<p>There is, of course, a third possibility. All three candidates were surprise choices. No one knew who Sarah Palin was before she was picked as John McCain&#8217;s running mate. His campaign enjoyed a jump in popularity immediately after she joined, but that quickly disappeared. I&#8217;d argue that the election might have been much closer had McCain picked someone else as his running mate- one of his primary opponents, for instance. Did she cause McCain to lose the election? I think people will be able to argue about that for years to come.</p>
<p>Both Sharron Angle and Christine O&#8217;Donnell had surprise wins in their respective primaries over much more experienced, known politicians. I&#8217;m not as familiar with Delaware, but I live and work in Nevada, and I know quite a few Republicans who could not bring themselves to vote for Angle. They didn&#8217;t necessarily vote for Harry Reid, but those were votes that the Republican candidate could traditionally have counted on that Angle didn&#8217;t get. They were votes that Sue Lowden, who lost the Republican primary to Angle, would have received had she been running. And it wasn&#8217;t really a close thing here, either. Harry Reid won by forty thousand votes, about five percent, which is much greater than his margin of victory in 1998. He won by 428 votes that year.</p>
<p>So the third possibility: Perhaps, yes, God did tell all three candidates to run. He wanted them in the race. Maybe He wanted them in the race because He knew they would throw the election in favor of the Democrats. Maybe God is a Democrat, and He told these candidates to run to aid the Democratic party.</p>
<p>After all, God moves in mysterious ways.</p>
<p><em>Rich is a writer who lives in Las Vegas. You can follow him on his </em><a href="http://richeperkin.com/" target="_blank"><em>blog</em></a><em> and on </em><a href="http://twitter.com/richeperkin" target="_blank"><em>Twitter</em></a><em>.</em></p>
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		<title>What Did We Learn From The &#8220;Ground Zero Mosque&#8221; Debate?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 02:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dean Arrindell</dc:creator>
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<p><script src="http://view.picapp.com//JavaScripts/OTIjs.js" type="text/javascript"></script>The heat and level of the debate over the proposed &#8220;Ground Zero Mosque&#8221;  &#8211; that isn&#8217;t at Ground Zero and is more community center than mosque &#8211; has lowered and will probably stay low for some time. Protests were held on Sunday with supporters and opponents of the space that is now known as Park51. Everyone has chimed in on the issue: Obama, Palin, Newt, New York Mayor Mike Bloomberg (whose <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2010/08/bloomberg-stands-up-for-mosque.html" target="_blank">speech</a> on the subject was powerful), and everyone else with an opinion or an election to win.</p>
<p>With the media and the public&#8217;s short attention spans, there are other things to report on &#8211; the egg recall, the 5th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, plus whatever else comes up &#8211; and there seems to be nothing more to move the Park51 story forward. There&#8217;s not much left for talking-heads or politicians to dissect on cable news.</p>
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<p>So, after spending several weeks listening to people talk about it, especially here in New York, I hope we have a better understanding of ourselves as a country. The debate touched on our basic rights as Americans as well as current issues the country faces: Freedom of religion, property rights, immigration, the changing racial and ethnic composition of the country, America&#8217;s relationship with the Muslim world, 9/11.</p>
<p>I hate to use the phrase &#8220;teachable moment,&#8221; but there must be a lesson here. Emotions have been high for several weeks now. Adding to the tension are the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/08/us/08mosque.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=1" target="_blank">protests and opposition</a> to proposed mosques in other parts of the country, and a <a href="http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1701/poll-obama-muslim-christian-church-out-of-politics-political-leaders-religious" target="_blank">recent poll</a> showing about 1/5 of Americans believe that Obama is a Muslim. America showed some of its true colors in the last few weeks. There is clearly a strong, or at least vocal, Islamophobic streak here.</p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s next on this issue?</p>
<p>Is the controversy dead? Will it come up again as we approach the mid-term elections?</p>
<p>What about the issues that surfaced during the debate? What did we learn about ourselves?</p>
<p>Leave your comments below.</p>
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